[MTOS-dev] Proposal: Remove mail setup from wizard

[Jay Allen]

I would like to point out, in case it's not obvious, that the
subscribers to this mailing list are not the target audience for the
wizard.  While we may all be wizards (ha) at editing the config file
and know all of our most important directives and their accepted
values by heart, this is by far the exception and not the rule.

However, even with that said, I myself almost *always* use the wizard
for clients who will be using LDAP or might have other special setups
that depart from the norm (e.g. email settings).  If there's any
failing currently in the wizard it's that it doesn't go far enough
with some of these more advanced setups, but especially LDAP setup.
Bugs/feature requests have been filed for some time on these issues.

-- 
Jay Allen
Endevver Consulting
415-200-6985

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 3:08 AM, OtherNiceMan <otherniceman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you have figures on how many people actually use the wizard?
>
>  Personally I did not even know it existed until I started going to
>  forums.sixapart.com and saw people posting problems about it.
>
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>  On 24/03/2008, Fumiaki Yoshimatsu <fyoshimatsu at sixapart.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > +1 to smarter installer, not weaker installer.
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>  >
>  > When we added the page in the wizard back in the 3.3 era, it was the request
>  > from the SAKK MT support team.  They had been having inquiries that their
>  > emails wouldn't have gone out from MT, when the customers were on
>  > Windows/IIS.  Simply removing the page and relying on "sendmail should work
>  > in most cases" is a step backward for the original purpose of the wizard.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Fumiaki Yoshimatsu
>  >
>  > Movable Type Engineering
>  >
>  > Six Apart K.K.
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>  > From: mtos-dev-bounces at sixapart.com [mailto:mtos-dev-bounces at sixapart.com]
>  > On Behalf Of Su
>  > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:44 PM
>  > To: Jay Allen
>  > Cc: MTOS dev
>  > Subject: Re: [MTOS-dev] Proposal: Remove mail setup from wizard
>  >
>  >
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>  >
>  > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Jay Allen <jay at endevver.com> wrote:
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>  > Byrne, can't this be autodetected?  I mean, if what you say is true
>  > and sendmail is that reliable, can't MT just simply connect to test
>  > and then either skip the step and use the default or, in the case of
>  > failure, display it so that the user can change it?  Frankly, I'd like
>  > a *smarter* installer, not a *weaker* installer.
>  >
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>  >
>  > One vote for this.
>  >
>  > From here down, the discussion is forking off into a separate topic that's
>  > actually adding /back on/ to what's involved in initial setup. Maybe it's
>  > time for someone to edit the subject line?
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